May 11, 1964

Mr. Dale E. Basye

1311 Whispering Trail

Dallas, Texas 75241

Dear Mr. Bayse:

In reply to your letter of December 27, 1963, and the enclosed manuscript, "The Eternal Circle," I must say that your interesting speculations on matter, space, and time have puzzled philosophers and scientists since the time of the ancient Greeks.

Some of your statements are inaccurate, such as the one which asserts that the life span of animals and plants depends on their size. Some relatively small animals, such as turtles, birds, and fish have longer life spans than man -- and man has a longer life span than the horse.

I think you will be happy to know that conferences of scientists, such as you suggest, are held periodically throughout the world, and that they do indeed lead to valuable results.

Sincerely yours,

Linus Pauling:ga

Department of Chemistry

University College London,

Gower Street,

London, W.C.1.

E. Crellin Pauling, Esq.,

Department of Genetics

The University of Washington

Seattle, Washington, U.S.A.

11th May, 1963.

Dear Crellin,

Thank you very much for your letter. I think you made a very clear and very nice statement of a certain kind of relationship that can exist between people. I think this is a restricted class of relationships however, and does not cover the practical situation that exists in a great many of the relationships between men and women.

As far as I know, Anita tried very hard to arrange so that she and Linus and their children could develop their lives fully within the marriage. It seems to me this divorce is probably a good thing under the circumstances and that Anita and Linus and the children will be better able to live their lives completely. I am a little worried about Linus. He came through here a week ago and strikes me as being rather unhappy. The new circumstances remove several of the problems with which he had to cope and I think couldn't, and increases his security and the practical tools available to him with which to cope with life. I think, for example, that you are more emotionally secure than Linus.

Please will you write a cheque to Geodesic Structures Inc. $15.40 and send it with the enclosed letter to Geodesic Structures Inc. Box 308, Park Water Station Spokane 6 Washington (Telephone No. Keystone 4-3323) which asks them to send to you certain materials? Will you then reship the materials when they come to you to me at University College? Perhaps you should ring them up and ask them for current prices and for the shipping costs before sending off the letter. Thank you very much. The currency control situation is so complicated that it is easier for me to ask you to do this than to try to do it directly. You owe me $15 from that $150 that I sent you and I'll owe you the rest of it.

Are you coming to Europe this summer? I am still uncertain about our plans, though I still think it likely that we shall be in California. The National Institutes of Health are very slow.

With love to Lucy and the children,