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Guy Seghetti Oral History Interview, October 6, 2016

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00:00:00 - Interview Introduction

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Partial Transcript: Okay, go ahead.

Segment Synopsis: Seghetti introduces himself, and provides his birthday, the current date and the location of the interview.

Keywords: Craft beer; Home brewing; Hop research

Subjects: Beer and brewing; Hops; Oregon State University; Roseburg (Or.)

00:00:19 - Childhood memories / Family history

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Partial Transcript: Where were you born?

Segment Synopsis: Seghetti describes his early life in Bozeman, Montana and how he ended up moving to Corvallis with his mother, along with the jobs his grandparents held in Corvallis. He discusses the placement of shops in Corvallis during the 1960s, the origins for his love of history, and the lives of his mother and grandparents. He details the schools he attended for lower education, along with how he commuted by bike. Seghetti then discusses the extracurricular and social activities he participated in, along with how Corvallis has grown since he grew up there.

Keywords: Business development; Childhood independence; Corvallis (Or.)--History; Shari's cafe and pies; Wilson Motors (Corvallis, Or.)

Subjects: Bozeman, Montana; Corvallis (Or.); Family history; Gymnastics; Independence; Local history; Shopping centers; Single parents; Veterinarians

00:07:51 - Academic interests / Career plans

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Partial Transcript: So what about- you're pretty close to campus.

Segment Synopsis: Seghetti discusses his use of the Oregon State University facilities while growing up, and the general presence of the university in the Corvallis community. He describes his relaxed approach to his academic interests, and his focus on general and social sciences in school. He explains his goals growing up, and his mother’s influence on his decision to study anthropology. Seghetti summarizes his early jobs after college, and how he ended up in an education career.

Keywords: Gymnastics clubs; Human history; Local parks; Professional students

Subjects: Anthropology; Art History; Art--History; Bird watching; Experiential learning; Field biology; Oregon State University; Social sciences; William Jasper Kerr Library

00:12:34 - Social atmosphere in the late 1960s

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Partial Transcript: What about, so I guess stepping back a little

Segment Synopsis: Seghetti describes the character of his student cohort in high school, and the welcoming social atmosphere of the group. He discusses the various social and political events going on during his high school years, and his peer’s perceptions of those movements. He comments on how students have changed in terms of subversive behavior since then. He also recounts a story about his Afro from that time.

Keywords: Nobel prize in physics; Racial issues--1960s; Student scholars; Subversive thinking

Subjects: Gymnastics; Gymnastics coaches; Nobel Prize; Nobel Prize winners; Student-athletes; Subversion; Subversive activities

00:17:21 - Impact of agriculture and beer in Corvallis, OR

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Partial Transcript: So what about the kind of larger influence

Segment Synopsis: Seghetti recounts his mother’s description of food availability and affordability during the Great Depression. He describes the kinds of businesses in town present while he was growing up, and how food variety has changed since then. He also discusses his mother’s beer preferences, and how they would drink together as he got older. Seghetti then notes the life of his older sister, and her skills in art.

Keywords: Diverse diet; Responsible drinking; The Great Depression; The Great Depression: 1929-1939; Varied diet

Subjects: Beer; Beer and brewing; Breweries; Dietitians; Food--Costs; J.C. Penney Co.; Seamstresses

00:22:43 - College experiences at the University of Utah

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Partial Transcript: So you're getting towards the end of high school

Segment Synopsis: Seghetti discusses how he decided to go to the University of Utah, and the financial support he received. He describes the atmosphere on campus, comparing the character of the students to the outside Mormon population. He details the skiing culture at the university, and the opportunities it provided to take extra coursework. He examines the alcohol restrictions in Salt Lake City, and the effects they have on student alcohol abuse.

Keywords: College debt; College friends; College friendships; Full-ride scholarships; Student debt

Subjects: Alcohol abuse; Financial aid to students; Salt Lake City (Utah); Skiing; University of Utah

00:25:55 - Beer culture in Salt Lake City

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Partial Transcript: What about the- well, we can't talk about Salt Lake

Segment Synopsis: Seghetti compares his childhood exposure to alcohol in local businesses with that in Salt Lake City, noting the restrictions on different beverages. He describes the measures breweries took to sell beer in dry states following Prohibition, along with his opportunities to tour breweries in the past.

Keywords: "Dry" towns; Local temperance movements; Low-alcohol beer; Session beer

Subjects: Bars; Beer; Beer and brewing; Liquor stores; Prohibition; Salt Lake City (Utah)

00:30:33 - Anthropology studies at University of Utah

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Partial Transcript: So, what else? What are some other memories you have

Segment Synopsis: Seghetti recounts how he ended up studying anthropology in college, and the nature of the community within the department. He discusses the work of his professor, Dr. Charles Dibble, on the Florentine Codex and other research into Aztec culture. He recalls a class session where Dr. Dibble compared the gullible behavior of the Aztecs with that of his students using peyote.

Keywords: Academic community; Aztec civilization; Aztec culture; Gullible; University community

Subjects: Anthropology; Art History; Art--History; Aztecs; Florentine codex; Peyote; Salt Lake City (Utah); University of Utah

00:33:40 - Introduction to the OSU Hop Research program

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Partial Transcript: So as you were- when did your interest in science, how did you end up in the hop yards?

Segment Synopsis: Seghetti describes his mother’s interactions with Gail Nickerson, and how that lead to him working in the OSU hop research lab during high school and college. He details the various jobs he did for the lab during his work there, and his perceptions of the job. Seghetti then discusses the community within the lab, particularly detailing Gail Nickerson’s work, along with some of the more technical tasks he performed.

Keywords: Chemical elucidation; Hop research; Hops--chemical analysis; Hops--chemistry; Research lab chores

Subjects: Bars; Breweries; Computational chemistry; Gas chromatography; Hop (plant); Hops; Hops--Composition; Hops--West (U.S.); Mass spectrometry; Oregon State University; USDA; United States. Department of Agriculture

00:39:52 - Hops research technology in the 1970s

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Partial Transcript: Gail has called it the era of bucket science

Segment Synopsis: Seghetti describes the level of sophistication in calculators and computers during his time working in the hop lab, along with the physical environment there during the summer. He discusses the hop procession equipment used by the lab, and the purpose of processing hops for testing with participating breweries.

Keywords: Hop dryers; Hops dryer; Hops dryers; Hops--cold storage; Hops--open storage; Hops--storage

Subjects: Air conditioning; Computers--1970-1980; Hewlett-Packard Company; Hops; Hops--Drying; Pocket calculators

00:42:37 - Hop development and craft brewing / Working in the hopyards

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Partial Transcript: What was the relationship like? Were the people from those participating breweries

Segment Synopsis: Seghetti discusses the intent of the hop research projects in relation with the brewing industry, and the early work on Cascade hops. He describes his occasional work on the research hop yards, and how he eventually took over the yards for more efficient management. He details the different kinds of hops grown in the research yards at the time, along with the rudimentary methods used in cross-pollination and other projects.

Keywords: Cascade hops; Dioecious plants; Fuggle hops; Hop yards; Hops--varieties; Hops--yields; Hopyards; Macrobreweries

Subjects: Anheuser-Busch Brewing and Food Science Laboratory; Anheuser-Busch Companies; Anheuser-Busch, Inc.; Beer and brewing; Breweries; Farm management; Hops; Microbreweries

00:50:07 - Memories of Dr. Al Haunold / Experiences visiting commercial hopyards

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Partial Transcript: What are some of the things you remember about Al?

Segment Synopsis: Seghetti describes his interactions with Dr. Al Haunold, and how Haunold told stories of his personal life and history. He notes the work Haunold put into multiple facets of the research lab. Seghetti then discusses the trips he and other researchers would take to commercial hop yards, and the various interactions they had with farmers on visits and buying farm equipment. He also describes the visit of farmers to the research lab, and his collaborations with them on improving the research hop yards.

Keywords: Dr. Alfred Haunold; Haunold, Alfred; Hop farmers; Hop farms; Hop yards; Hops industry--Woodburn (Or.); Hops--genetics; Hopyards

Subjects: Farm mechanization; Hops; Hops industry; Plant genetics; USDA; United States. Department of Agriculture; WWII; Willamette Valley (Or.); Woodburn (Or.); World War 2; World War II

00:56:57 - Introduction to home brewing

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Partial Transcript: Did you guys brew with Al?

Segment Synopsis: Seghetti describes his interest in brewing following his 21st birthday, and how it related to the sensory analysis done on pilot beers in the lab. He notes the equipment he used for the process, and his friends’ responses to the product. He then discusses how he and friends acquired the old research cold storage unit as a home brewing space at the hop yards, and the styles he focused on. He details his experiences with home brewing after leaving the research lab, and compares his process to that used in microbreweries.

Keywords: Bottom-fermenting yeast; Home brewing; Hops--cold storage; Hops--storage; Pelletized hops

Subjects: Beer; Beer and brewing; Brewing--Equipment and supplies; Lagers; Pelletizing; Yeast

01:01:40 - Interactions with hop expert Jack Horner / Hop pathology

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Partial Transcript: What about working with Jack Horner?

Segment Synopsis: Seghetti describes his interaction with renowned hop pathologist Jack Horner, along with the pest management methods used in the research hop yards. He discusses the researchers’ philosophy about pesticide use, and notes some of the prominent pathogens of the time. He details the other crops grown at the hop yards, and how they were used by the lab staff.

Keywords: Downy mildew of hops; Hop pathology; Pesticide application; Pesticide management; Systemic pesticides

Subjects: Downy mildew; Downy mildew diseases; Hops--Diseases and pests; Hops--Pests; Pesticides; Plant pathologists; Plant pathology; United States. Department of Agriculture

01:05:54 - Crop research at OSU / Memories of hop researchers

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Partial Transcript: So what was the relationship between the other breeding programs?

Segment Synopsis: Seghetti describes the interactions the hop lab had with other crop science projects, specifically in mint essential oil research. He discusses his recollections of Gail Nickerson and her rebellious, well-rounded nature. He recalls his experiences in the hop yards after being transferred to work there full time, along with some of the brewers and staff that came through the lab.

Keywords: Hop research; Hop varieties; Hops--essential oils; Mint--essential oils; Mint--research; Wild hop varieties

Subjects: Beer and brewing; Gender and politics; Hop (plant); Hops; Mint family (Plants); Plant pathology

01:12:42 - Government involvement in hop research

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Partial Transcript: What about funding? What was the-

Segment Synopsis: Seghetti discusses the sources of funding for the hop research lab, along with his transition into marriage and graduating from college. He describes the importance of government regulation in hop production during the 1970s, especially with concerns about the similarity of hops and marijuana. He notes the requirements of successful grafting, and the co-mingled growth of marijuana and hops in commercial yards earlier in the 20th century.

Keywords: Grafting (plants); Home brewing; Hop cultivation; U.S. Brewers' Association

Subjects: Food science; Grafting; Hemp; Hemp--Utilization; Hops; USDA-ARS; United States Brewers' Association; United States. Department of Agriculture

01:20:15 - Transition out of hops research into education in Roseburg

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Partial Transcript: So when you left, did you feel like there was- did you ever think about being a scientist?

Segment Synopsis: Seghetti discusses his reasoning for leaving the hop research lab, along with the techniques used by the researchers to learn more about hop farming history. He describes the hop pathology experiments they ran around the state, and the impact that the Cascade hop has had on the brewing industry. Seghetti then recounts how he left the lab and started his education career in Roseburg, Oregon. He details the culture of Roseburg, specifically noting the presence of craft beer and wine in the town. He describes how he was re-introduced to home brewing by friends in town, and how the local wineries influence the craft brewing industry in Roseburg.

Keywords: Cascade hops; Downy mildew of hops; Hop farms--Grants Pass (Or.); Hop varieties; Hops--history; Wine country--Oregon

Subjects: Downy mildew; Education; Financial security; Hops; Hops industry; Hops--Diseases and pests; Microbreweries; Monmouth (Or.); Monmouth (Or.)--History; Roseburg (Or.); Wine industry; Wine industry--Oregon; Wineries

01:29:51 - Craft brewing in Roseburg, OR

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Partial Transcript: So what is the, I'm not sure how to ask this question. I guess, I'm curious about

Segment Synopsis: Seghetti discusses the rise of the craft brewing industry in and around Roseburg, Oregon and how it meshes with the surrounding agriculture. He explains his perspectives on public brewing preferences, and the growth of education in alcoholic beverages. He describes how the brewpub model is applied by local microbreweries through collaboration with food carts, and the proportion of microbreweries in the town.

Keywords: Beer--bitterness; Brewing--education; Craft beer; Craft brewing; India Pale Ales (IPAs)

Subjects: Beer; Beer and brewing; Breweries; Cider; Cider industry; Food carts; McMenamins Pubs & Breweries; McMenamins Pubs and Breweries; Microbreweries

01:35:09 - Nostalgia for experience in hops research

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Partial Transcript: Do you ever, have you ever then thought about

Segment Synopsis: Seghetti reflects on his pride about working with and remembering his mentors in the hop research lab, and his hopes for their continued recognition in hop farming and brewing. He notes the skills he attained in hop cultivation and other areas while in the lab, and how he passes them on to his community. He recalls the safety methods used when constructing a barn for the research hop yards, along with his wish to visit again soon.

Keywords: Cascade hops; Community members; Dr. Alfred Haunold; Dr. Jack Horner; Haunold, Alfred; Hop maintenance; Hop varieties; Hop yards; Horner, Jack

Subjects: Corvallis (Or.); Hop (plants); Hops; Lagers; USDA; United States. Department of Agriculture

01:41:25 - Concluding thoughts

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Partial Transcript: Well were there things that were on your list that you're kinda

Segment Synopsis: Seghetti discusses his interest in the genetic side of the hop research, and how genetic research has shifted over time. He notes the different hop varieties he remembers working on during his time with the lab. He describes how the lab’s sense of community influenced his perceptions of research accomplishments and memories of his time there.

Keywords: Hop varieties; Hops ploidy; Hops--genetics; Work community

Subjects: Gene Editing--history; Hop (plant); Hops; Plant breeding; Teamwork